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Getting Rid of Smoke Smell?

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- - 23 Feb 2008 01:25 GMT
I recently obtained an upgraded video card (a PNY Nvidia 6800 GT) to put
into my aging P4P800SE mobo.  The card is great but problem is that the card
came from a computer that must have been used by a smoker.  Its fan is
"spreading" the smell around.  Is there anything that can be done to safely
wipe down the card?

I was wondering about the old trick I learned as Red Cross volunteer where
you put a wide plate filled an inch or so with white vinegar in a room with
a moderate smoke smell and it seems to get rid of the smell.  I was thinking
about putting the card in a sealed container that also contains a cup
half-filled with the white vinegar.  Would the fumes be too corrosive
though?

Thanks in advance for any hints and advice!
First of One - 23 Feb 2008 03:02 GMT
The vinegar fumes shouldn't harm the card. However, I don't think it will be
effective. If you can smell the smoke, that means there's soot, dirt and
other crap trapped in the heat sink fins.

Does your card's heat sink look like this?
http://img36.exs.cx/img36/7984/pny6800gt.jpg

Undo the 6 small screws around the perimeter of the heat sink cover (the
thin plate with the mermaid picture). Then wipe through the heat sink and
fan blades with isopropyl alcohol.

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"War is the continuation of politics by other means.
It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."

>I recently obtained an upgraded video card (a PNY Nvidia 6800 GT) to put
>into my aging P4P800SE mobo.  The card is great but problem is that the
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>
> Thanks in advance for any hints and advice!
Mr.E Solved! - 23 Feb 2008 06:40 GMT
> I recently obtained an upgraded video card (a PNY Nvidia 6800 GT) to put
> into my aging P4P800SE mobo.  The card is great but problem is that the card
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>
> Thanks in advance for any hints and advice!

Better yet, pick up the habit, bowls of vinegar indeed.
Rene - 23 Feb 2008 09:59 GMT
>I recently obtained an upgraded video card (a PNY Nvidia 6800 GT) to put
>into my aging P4P800SE mobo.  The card is great but problem is that the
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>
> Thanks in advance for any hints and advice!

No idea what they are called in English but I would use these sticks which
You can use to clean Your ears, put some alcohol on them and go over all
pieces You can reach, esp. the heatsink and the fan. Only use clean alcohol,
i.e. not denaturated, because the latter might leave the stuff which is used
for the denaturation.

However, after some time the smell will get less and less. I used to have a
cousin that smoked a lot and I have bought several things from him, getting
this smell with them just like You, but when all "stench molecules" have
been blown away by the fan, they are gone for good.

Succes!
Yours sincerely
Rene

P.S. I looked for a picture and it seems that it is called a "white menbo",
You can see the picture on
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f9/White_menbo.jpg.
tpow - 23 Feb 2008 10:58 GMT
> No idea what they are called in English but I would use these sticks which
> You can use to clean Your ears,

Crab Sticks maybe.................
Inglo - 23 Feb 2008 16:05 GMT
On 2/23/2008 2:58 AM tpow brightened our day with:
>> No idea what they are called in English but I would use these sticks which
>> You can use to clean Your ears,
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>
>  
Q-tips is the genericized term (brand name becomes common name).
Also referred to as cotton swabs.

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- - 23 Feb 2008 18:30 GMT
Thanks for all the suggestions.  FWIW, I took the fan cover off and then
soaked the wide tip of soft medium sized paint brush with a bit of alcohol
and then used that to brush down all of heat sink fins/posts plus all of the
fan and housing.  I then let it dry for a while.  Finally, I put it in a box
with a bowl filled 1/8 full of white vinegar for about 2 hours.  It seems to
have helped.  I think leaving the card in the box with vinegar overnight
would have helped even more but I just wasn't sure if corrosion would be an
issue.  I will live with it for a while and redo it again for longer (in the
box) if it continues to bother me.

Thanks again.
Rene - 23 Feb 2008 20:30 GMT
> Thanks for all the suggestions.  FWIW, I took the fan cover off and then
> soaked the wide tip of soft medium sized paint brush with a bit of alcohol
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> would be an issue.  I will live with it for a while and redo it again for
> longer (in the box) if it continues to bother me.

I would not do that. Vinegar is not good for electronics, it is an acid and
the fumes might indeed bring damage to Your card.

Yours sincerely,
Rene

P.S. A soft brush is too soft, next time, use these cottons sticks, You can
clean much more thoroughly with them.
First of One - 24 Feb 2008 02:03 GMT
You'd have a hard time getting a q-tip between the heat sink fins in a
GF6800. You'd need either a brush or a comb.

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"War is the continuation of politics by other means.
It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."

> P.S. A soft brush is too soft, next time, use these cottons sticks, You
> can clean much more thoroughly with them.
www.binaries4ever.net - 24 Feb 2008 05:13 GMT
>You'd have a hard time getting a q-tip between the heat sink fins in a
>GF6800. You'd need either a brush or a comb.
Rene - 23 Feb 2008 20:32 GMT
>> No idea what they are called in English but I would use these sticks
>> which
>> You can use to clean Your ears,
>
> Crab Sticks maybe.................

Maybe You are referring to the Dutch verb "krabben" but Crab in English only
means "krab", the animal and has nothing to do with krabben ;-).

Thanks for thinking along anyway!
Yours sincerely,
Rene
Folk - 24 Feb 2008 04:46 GMT
>>> No idea what they are called in English but I would use these sticks
>>> which
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>Yours sincerely,
>Rene

And you're not supposed to be cleaning your ears with those things.
They have a tendency to pack wax *into* your ear canals as opposed to
removing it.  Quite dangerous too if your hand happens to slip for
some reason.
Backspace - 25 Feb 2008 10:18 GMT
> Maybe You are referring to the Dutch verb "krabben" but Crab in English only
> means "krab", the animal and has nothing to do with krabben ;-).

Crab in English can also mean a person that has a bad temper. Sometimes
when someone displays a bad temper we say they are "crabby".
Rene - 25 Feb 2008 19:43 GMT
>> Maybe You are referring to the Dutch verb "krabben" but Crab in English
>> only means "krab", the animal and has nothing to do with krabben ;-).
>
> Crab in English can also mean a person that has a bad temper. Sometimes
> when someone displays a bad temper we say they are "crabby".

Ah, it's always nice to learn someting new about the English language, I did
not know that (my intention was in the first place to explain that the
litteral translation of "krab" (from "krabben" = to scratch) was not
correct)(though it was a nice try). In Dutch there's the word "kribbig" for
this (the first "i" is pronounced as in "to live")(and so is the second one
btw)(btw "btw" in Dutch means VAT). They must have a mutual
grand-grand-grand-parent. What would be the origin of the surname "Crabtree"
("Goodmowning!")? A tree filled with crabs would be utter nonsense, a tree
having a bad mood is quite ridiculous as well...

Yours sincerely,
Rene
Bill - 25 Feb 2008 21:37 GMT
> >> Maybe You are referring to the Dutch verb "krabben" but Crab in English
> >> only means "krab", the animal and has nothing to do with krabben ;-).
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> grand-grand-grand-parent. What would be the origin of the surname "Crabtree"
> ("Goodmowning!")? A tree filled with crabs would be utter nonsense,

http://mangrove.nus.edu.sg/pub/wetlands/text/99-6-1-11.htm

> a tree
> having a bad mood is quite ridiculous as well...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hogwarts#Whomping_Willow

> Yours sincerely,
> Rene

        Bill
Rene - 26 Feb 2008 10:26 GMT
>> >> Maybe You are referring to the Dutch verb "krabben" but Crab in
>> >> English
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>
> http://mangrove.nus.edu.sg/pub/wetlands/text/99-6-1-11.htm

Hmmm, no utter nonsense after all, I was wrong! Very interesting, no idea
that there were crabs that specialize in climbing trees. I have searched a
bit more, some nice pictures are on
http://mangrove.nus.edu.sg/guidebooks/text/2049.htm (same site)(pretty girl
on picture as well ;-)),  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coconut_crab.
Incredible what You can find on the web nowadays. Beautifull photographs on
http://tidechaser.blogspot.com/2007/08/cj05082007.html as well, the crab is
just not in the tree at the moment the picture was taken, it is in some sort
of hole.

>> a tree
>> having a bad mood is quite ridiculous as well...
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hogwarts#Whomping_Willow

I think this idea was stolen from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Man_Willow . But apart from that, I think
the name Crabtree has existed for a longer time in English speaking
countries then those books have, so I guess it has another origin (maybe the
tree with crabs...?).

Thanks for the nice links!

Yours sincerely,
Rene
First of One - 26 Feb 2008 02:20 GMT
I am surprised nobody has made a joke about a certain type of lice yet...

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"War is the continuation of politics by other means.
It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."

>>> Maybe You are referring to the Dutch verb "krabben" but Crab in English
>>> only means "krab", the animal and has nothing to do with krabben ;-).
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> Yours sincerely,
> Rene
Rene - 26 Feb 2008 10:29 GMT
[Fixed quotation]

>>>> Maybe You are referring to the Dutch verb "krabben" but Crab in English
>>>> only means "krab", the animal and has nothing to do with krabben ;-).
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>> "Crabtree" ("Goodmowning!")? A tree filled with crabs would be utter
>> nonsense, a tree having a bad mood is quite ridiculous as well...

>I am surprised nobody has made a joke about a certain type of lice yet...

Well, they look like crabs so that'll the reason they have that name. In
this context the translation from the Dutch word "krabben" (scratch) was not
bad at all... And I think that when You are pestered all day long by these
animals, You might get crabby as well!

Yours sincerely,
Rene
Backspace - 27 Feb 2008 02:47 GMT
> I am surprised nobody has made a joke about a certain type of lice yet...

Oh, forgot about *those* crabs. I got the crabs once from a  motel bed, ew!
Backspace - 27 Feb 2008 02:44 GMT
>What would be the origin of the surname "Crabtree"
> ("Goodmowning!")? A tree filled with crabs would be utter nonsense, a tree
> having a bad mood is quite ridiculous as well...
>
> Yours sincerely,
> Rene

Ah, yes, that probably comes from the crab apple which grows on trees.
Small bitter tasting apples.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_apple
Rene - 27 Feb 2008 10:01 GMT
>>What would be the origin of the surname "Crabtree"
>> ("Goodmowning!")? A tree filled with crabs would be utter nonsense, a
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>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_apple

I think You are right, the "crab tree" is even mentioned in the article. I
had searched for "crabtree" and had not found this background of that name,
however, no I know that originally these were two different words.

Thanks for Your information!

Yours sincerely,
Rene
 
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