Silicon Image 0680 + 3114 on same system ?

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Andre Majorel - 15 Aug 2007 10:54 GMT

I've bought a Connectland "carte PCI RAID ATA 133 0703014" dual
IDE controller (Silicon Image 0680, PCI 1095:0680 rev 02).
Unfortunately it conflicts with the Silicon Image 3114 on the
motherboard (PCI 1095:3114 rev 02).

If I disable the on-board 3114 in the BIOS, the 0680 works but I
lose 4 SATA ports. If I enable the 3114 in the BIOS, the PC
freezes shortly after power-on.

I'm running Linux. Is it possible to disable the 3114 in the
BIOS and have Linux re-enable it when it boots ?

The I/O ports for the 0680 and 3114 overlap somewhat but maybe
they're assigned dynamically ? I don't need the RAID BIOSes as
I'm doing software RAID only.

0680 :
9c00-9c0f : 0000:01:07.0
a000-a003 : 0000:01:07.0
a400-a407 : 0000:01:07.0
a800-a803 : 0000:01:07.0
ac00-ac07 : 0000:01:07.0

3114 :
9800-980f : 0000:01:0d.0
9c00-9c03 : 0000:01:0d.0
a000-a007 : 0000:01:0d.0
a400-a403 : 0000:01:0d.0
a800-a807 : 0000:01:0d.0

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Arno Wagner - 17 Aug 2007 15:10 GMT

> I've bought a Connectland "carte PCI RAID ATA 133 0703014" dual
> IDE controller (Silicon Image 0680, PCI 1095:0680 rev 02).
> Unfortunately it conflicts with the Silicon Image 3114 on the
> motherboard (PCI 1095:3114 rev 02).

> If I disable the on-board 3114 in the BIOS, the 0680 works but I
> lose 4 SATA ports. If I enable the 3114 in the BIOS, the PC
> freezes shortly after power-on.

> I'm running Linux. Is it possible to disable the 3114 in the
> BIOS and have Linux re-enable it when it boots ?

Not as far as I know.

> The I/O ports for the 0680 and 3114 overlap somewhat but maybe
> they're assigned dynamically ? I don't need the RAID BIOSes as
> I'm doing software RAID only.

> 0680 :
> 9c00-9c0f : 0000:01:07.0
> a000-a003 : 0000:01:07.0
> a400-a407 : 0000:01:07.0
> a800-a803 : 0000:01:07.0
> ac00-ac07 : 0000:01:07.0

> 3114 :
> 9800-980f : 0000:01:0d.0
> 9c00-9c03 : 0000:01:0d.0
> a000-a007 : 0000:01:0d.0
> a400-a403 : 0000:01:0d.0
> a800-a807 : 0000:01:0d.0

Well, and there seems to be the problem. The ports are likely
allocated by the BIOS and not the kernel. Sorry, but I think Silicon
Image is just being incompatible with itself here and the only
thing that would help is a BIOS update for the controller(s).

Arno

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Andre Majorel - 21 Aug 2007 00:21 GMT

>> The I/O ports for the 0680 and 3114 overlap somewhat but maybe
>> they're assigned dynamically ? I don't need the RAID BIOSes as
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> Image is just being incompatible with itself here and the only
> thing that would help is a BIOS update for the controller(s).

Things aren't looking up, then. BIOS updates aren't really
Connectland's style. But thanks.

If someone can recommend a cheap PCI card with two or more IDE
ports, I'm all ears.

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Arno Wagner - 21 Aug 2007 00:51 GMT

>>> The I/O ports for the 0680 and 3114 overlap somewhat but maybe
>>> they're assigned dynamically ? I don't need the RAID BIOSes as
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>> Image is just being incompatible with itself here and the only
>> thing that would help is a BIOS update for the controller(s).

> Things aren't looking up, then. BIOS updates aren't really
> Connectland's style. But thanks.

> If someone can recommend a cheap PCI card with two or more IDE
> ports, I'm all ears.

I like the Promise ultra 100/133 TX2. They have two poers each and
you can have more than one in a system, the BIOS of the one
frist activated will find the other cards.

I had a 4 disk RAID5 running with a pair of them for several years
under Linux. Never had problems. One thing though: IF you do
RAID with them, use only one disk per IDE channel, otherwise
they get painfully slow. This seems however to be a general
problem with IDE and not with this particular controller only.

Arno

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Andre Majorel - 24 Aug 2007 12:35 GMT

>>>> The I/O ports for the 0680 and 3114 overlap somewhat but maybe
>>>> they're assigned dynamically ? I don't need the RAID BIOSes as
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> they get painfully slow. This seems however to be a general
> problem with IDE and not with this particular controller only.

Thanks. I got a Promise Ultra 133 TX2. The chip is a Promise
20269 (PCI ID 105A:4D69 rev 02).

Unfortunately, like the Connectland, it locks up the PC at
power-on unless you disable the on-board SiI 3114.

Curiously, the I/O ports are exactly the same as what is
reported for the SiI 0680 :

9c00-9c0f : 0000:01:07.0
a000-a003 : 0000:01:07.0
a400-a407 : 0000:01:07.0
a800-a803 : 0000:01:07.0
ac00-ac07 : 0000:01:07.0

I tried moving the Promise to a different PCI slot but it makes
no difference (the PC still freezes).

Sheesh. Wasn't PCI supposed to put an end to this kind of
problems ?

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Arno Wagner - 24 Aug 2007 15:23 GMT

>>>>> The I/O ports for the 0680 and 3114 overlap somewhat but maybe
>>>>> they're assigned dynamically ? I don't need the RAID BIOSes as
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>> they get painfully slow. This seems however to be a general
>> problem with IDE and not with this particular controller only.

> Thanks. I got a Promise Ultra 133 TX2. The chip is a Promise
> 20269 (PCI ID 105A:4D69 rev 02).

> Unfortunately, like the Connectland, it locks up the PC at
> power-on unless you disable the on-board SiI 3114.

> Curiously, the I/O ports are exactly the same as what is
> reported for the SiI 0680 :

> 9c00-9c0f : 0000:01:07.0
> a000-a003 : 0000:01:07.0
> a400-a407 : 0000:01:07.0
> a800-a803 : 0000:01:07.0
> ac00-ac07 : 0000:01:07.0

> I tried moving the Promise to a different PCI slot but it makes
> no difference (the PC still freezes).

> Sheesh. Wasn't PCI supposed to put an end to this kind of
> problems ?

Yes, indeed. I suspect that the onboard BIOS was programmed
by somebody pretty incompetent. Would nto be the first instance
of that.

Arno

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Folkert Rienstra - 25 Aug 2007 07:38 GMT

> > > > > > The I/O ports for the 0680 and 3114 overlap somewhat but maybe
> > > > > > they're assigned dynamically ? I don't need the RAID BIOSes as
[quoted text clipped - 54 lines]
>
> > Sheesh. Wasn't PCI supposed to put an end to this kind of problems ?

> Yes, indeed. I suspect that the onboard BIOS was programmed
> by somebody pretty incompetent.

Someone like yourself, babblebot?

> Would nto be the first instance of that.

Pity about that ...

> > > > Sorry, but I think Silicon Image is just being incompatible with
> > > > itself here and the only thing that would help is a BIOS update
> > > > for the controller(s).

... earlier. Incompetent babblebot.

> Arno

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