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Hardware Forum / Storage / General Topics / April 2005How to make CD bootable in XP Professional?
I downloaded Acronis True Image and made a bootable CD as per their program. However, I have no idea if my CD driver is capable of booting the computer. The computer is a new Dell w/XP Pro. Dell no longer gives out a copy of the OS with the machine, so I have no idea if my computer is capable of booting from any other CD. How do I find out if it is? I don't want to sit around with a "bootable" disk that my computer cannot use. (Yes, I've searched Google, but I don't understand a damn word of those articles on the subject.) ~ > I downloaded Acronis True Image and > made a bootable CD as per their program. > However, I have no idea if my CD driver > is capable of booting the computer. Presumably you mean CD drive. > The computer is a new Dell w/XP Pro. Dell no longer > gives out a copy of the OS with the machine, so I have no > idea if my computer is capable of booting from any other CD. Corse it is. > How do I find out if it is? Try booting off it, silly. > I don't want to sit around with a "bootable" > disk that my computer cannot use. > (Yes, I've searched Google, but I don't understand > a damn word of those articles on the subject.) Even you should be able to manage a more viable troll than that pathetic effort, child. > I downloaded Acronis True Image and made a bootable CD as per their > program. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > (Yes, I've searched Google, but I don't understand a damn word of those > articles on the subject.) Did you get ANY CDs with your Dell? BTW, which Dell model do you have? > > I downloaded Acronis True Image and made a bootable CD as per their > > program. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Did you get ANY CDs with your Dell? > BTW, which Dell model do you have? I did get various discs that are for reinstalling the modem, scanner, etc. None say anything about XP Pro. I read in another group that Dell has the OS in a hidden file. The poster said that Dell told him that if his HD went down, he would have to order another drive from Dell, and they would put the OS on it for him. This is really ridiculous when they do not supply such a crucial necessity as a copy of the OS. Of course, it's the fault of the greedy bastard in Redmond. I have a Dell 8400 w/XP Pro on it. By the way, I did put the bootable CD in the drive and it did not boot the computer. The computer booted as usual from the C: drive. This is *really* ridiculous. Acronis gives the option of placing the bootable files on 17 floppies. Yeah, I *really* want to do that. >> > I downloaded Acronis True Image and made a bootable CD as per their >> > program. [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > By the way, I did put the bootable CD in the drive and it did not boot > the computer. The computer booted as usual from the C: drive. You just need to include the CD drive in the boot sequence in the bios. > This is *really* ridiculous. Nope. > Acronis gives the option of placing the bootable files on 17 floppies. > Yeah, I *really* want to do that. No need except when you dont have a CD drive. > > > I downloaded Acronis True Image and made a bootable CD as per their > > > program. [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > Acronis gives the option of placing the bootable files on 17 floppies. > Yeah, I *really* want to do that. Method 1: --------------------- When your computer boots up press F12 Select CD ROM to boot from Method 2: --------------------- When your computer boots up press F2 Check what settings you have in Drives section, do you see CD ROM there? If not, change appropriate value. If yes, check Boot Sequence section. Is CD-ROM listed above Hard Drive? If not, change sequence. read pages 111-117 on: http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim8400/en/om/U70350LRs.pdf > > > > I downloaded Acronis True Image and made a bootable CD as per their > > > > program. [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > read pages 111-117 on: > http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim8400/en/om/U70350LRs.pdf From what I saw when using the F12 key, the sequence in which the machine looks through is: 1. Floppy 2. SATA C: drive 3. IDE C: drive 4. CD-ROM If this is the case, why should I worry about changing it? If I'm understanding this, if it does not find an OS on any of the first three, it will go to the CD drive. Or am I misunderstanding this? By the way, thanks for sticking with me through my ignorance. I do appreciate your patience. > > Method 1: > > --------------------- [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > > > read pages 111-117 on: http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim8400/en/om/U70350LRs.pdf > From what I saw when using the F12 key, the sequence in which the > machine looks through is: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > By the way, thanks for sticking with me through my ignorance. I do > appreciate your patience. The purpose of using F12 is to see a SELECTION list from which you can choose how to perform a CURRENT BOOT ONLY, not to see a boot sequence order. Boot order you can see/change after hitting F2 (System Setup) and selecting a Boot Sequence menu option. What your Boot Sequence says? >> > > > I downloaded Acronis True Image and made a bootable CD as per their >> > > > program. [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > 3. IDE C: drive > 4. CD-ROM > If this is the case, why should I worry about changing it? Because it wont boot off the CD unless none that are higher in the list are bootable. > If I'm understanding this, if it does not find an OS on any of the > first three, it will go to the CD drive. Or am I misunderstanding this? Thats correct, but that is an unusual situation with a system thats been used at all, so it will never boot off the CD. > By the way, thanks for sticking with me through > my ignorance. I do appreciate your patience. > This is really ridiculous when they do not supply such a crucial > necessity as a copy of the OS. Of course, it's the fault of the greedy > bastard in Redmond. Microsoft is responsible for Dell's faults? Really funny, thanks :)  SignatureMaxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP StorageCraft Corporation maxim@storagecraft.com http://www.storagecraft.com > > This is really ridiculous when they do not supply such a crucial > > necessity as a copy of the OS. Of course, it's the fault of the greedy [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > maxim@storagecraft.com > http://www.storagecraft.com My understanding from posts around Usenet is the MS put pressure on the companies to not give copies of the OS with their computers. It hurts Redmond's business. Dell was one of the last to cave on this subject. Also, Dell is in a much more highly competitive situation than is MS. Where else is one going to get Windows of any kind except from MS? MS is a master at cheating customers with crapware. Their faulty OS, full of holes and conflicts. is sold for a ridiculous amount of money. The try their best to screw you out of its use even after you've bought by restrictive access to its use in order for them not to lose a dime through piracy. Finally, it is not *really* funny. It's not funny in the slightest. > MS is a master at cheating customers with crapware. Their faulty OS, > full of holes and conflicts. No conflicts at all, best security patch distribution policy, best usability, best hardware support, no architectural holes (only bugs due to developer's attention problem), best development tools etc. SignatureMaxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP StorageCraft Corporation maxim@storagecraft.com http://www.storagecraft.com >> > This is really ridiculous when they do not supply such a crucial >> > necessity as a copy of the OS. Of course, it's the fault of the greedy [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> maxim@storagecraft.com >> http://www.storagecraft.com > My understanding from posts around Usenet is the MS > put pressure on the companies to not give copies of the > OS with their computers. It hurts Redmond's business. That's a lie. > Dell was one of the last to cave on this subject. Dell chose to do it like that for THEIR convenience. > Also, Dell is in a much more highly competitive situation than is MS. > Where else is one going to get Windows of any kind except from MS? > MS is a master at cheating customers with crapware. Fools like you love any silly conspiracy theory going. > Their faulty OS, full of holes and conflicts. No one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to use it. > is sold for a ridiculous amount of money. No one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to use it. > The try their best to screw you out of its use even > after you've bought by restrictive access to its use > in order for them not to lose a dime through piracy. No one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to use it. > Finally, it is not *really* funny. It's not funny in the slightest. No one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to use it. Another cyberspace "tough guy" who has earned a place in my plonk file. PLONK! > PLONK! No one actually gives a flying red f.ck what fools like you choose to read, child. >> Did you get ANY CDs with your Dell? >> BTW, which Dell model do you have? > >I did get various discs that are for reinstalling the modem, scanner, >etc. None say anything about XP Pro. Hmm... I just had a "friend" (actually a hot woman) ask me to help her fix (read: wipe and reinstall) her Dell. I was wanting to do her^H^H^Hit, but it looks like I may not be able to, eh? >>> Did you get ANY CDs with your Dell? >>> BTW, which Dell model do you have? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >her fix (read: wipe and reinstall) her Dell. I was wanting to do >her^H^H^Hit, but it looks like I may not be able to, eh? Update: Her cheap Dell*, bought about a year ago, does indeed have the XP disk included. *What a wretched machine. Celeron 2.0, 15" CRT, and only 128M of DDR! Why do people buy computers without consulting someone who has a clue first? Anyway, I'm going to bump her up to 512M, throw-in a Northwood 2.2 that I had collecting dust, and do the fresh XP install. I think she'll be amazed at the improvement. 8) U have to get into ur setup through the bios. First , if ur switched off , switch on comp and press F2 u should see a page that will tell u how to do this . If its not F2 then try F8. If this doesnt help email me and ill try to help more Rgards Steve (turk2045.) savers200@hotmail.co.uk Look in BIOS setup screens, the chapter "Boot" SignatureMaxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP StorageCraft Corporation maxim@storagecraft.com http://www.storagecraft.com > I downloaded Acronis True Image and made a bootable CD as per their > program. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > ~ >> I downloaded Acronis True Image and made a bootable CD as per their >> program. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> the OS with the machine, so I have no idea if my computer is capable of >> booting from any other CD. What Dell used to do was have a ghost image of the original installation C: drive in a hidden partition of the hard disc. If you screwed the C: drive, you could restore the original setup from this image. Because of this, they did not provide an OS disc. Same applies to IBM - I have a T22 laptop and IBM told me I could not hav a copy of the OS on disc if this image resided on the hard drive because this would require TWO licences for the OS, i.e. MS was saying I had two copies. So I reformatted the hard drive wiping all partitions, installed Linux and then IBM mailed me the OS disc !!!!! IIRC if you hit F12 at boot up, you get a list of devices you can boot from - you can select any device from this list by hitting the number beside it. This works just for that boot. The permanent (alterable) boot order is stored in the BIOS. |
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