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Onstream D130  30G  Tape Backup  keeps ejecting ADR Carts

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Brian K - 28 Dec 2004 05:53 GMT
Pentium III 450  Windows 98

I have an Onstream 30G D130 (internal IDE) tape drive that suddenly has
started ejecting ADR cartages after years of reliable service.

I insert a cartage and hear the usual whirring sound.  After a while the
cartage ejects.  The Onstream web sites seems to be devoid of
information, just a lot of Google links.  Can anyone point me in a
direction where I can find some user support to troubleshoot this problem?

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Arno Wagner - 28 Dec 2004 14:21 GMT
> Pentium III 450  Windows 98

> I have an Onstream 30G D130 (internal IDE) tape drive that suddenly has
> started ejecting ADR cartages after years of reliable service.

> I insert a cartage and hear the usual whirring sound.  After a while the
> cartage ejects.  The Onstream web sites seems to be devoid of
> information, just a lot of Google links.  Can anyone point me in a
> direction where I can find some user support to troubleshoot this problem?

Dirty drive head? Did you celan it regularly wit a cleaning cartridge?

Arno
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Brian K - 29 Dec 2004 00:46 GMT
On 12/28/2004 9:21 AM  Arno Wagner after seeing Puppetry of the Penis
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I cleaned it with a cleaning cartridge fairly regularly.  I did so just
before posting this message.  I'll give it another shot.

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Brian K - 29 Dec 2004 07:56 GMT
On 12/28/2004 7:46 PM  Brian K after seeing Puppetry of the Penis remarked:

> On 12/28/2004 9:21 AM  Arno Wagner after seeing Puppetry of the Penis
> remarked:
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> I cleaned it with a cleaning cartridge fairly regularly.  I did so
> just before posting this message.  I'll give it another shot.

OK  I used the cleaning cartridge again.  I reinstalled the backup
software.  I even re-updated the firmware.  Nothing seems to work.   Has
Onstream gone out of business?  I can't seem to find user support.  Do i
have an EX-backup tape drive?

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Arno Wagner - 29 Dec 2004 17:31 GMT
> On 12/28/2004 7:46 PM  Brian K after seeing Puppetry of the Penis remarked:

>> On 12/28/2004 9:21 AM  Arno Wagner after seeing Puppetry of the Penis
>> remarked:
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>>> Dirty drive head? Did you celan it regularly wit a cleaning cartridge?
>>>
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> Onstream gone out of business?  I can't seem to find user support.  Do i
> have an EX-backup tape drive?

O.K., so you know ttape drives need regular cleaning. Hmmm.
Still looks like a hardware issue to me. First of all, don't
panic ;-)

There is one other failure mode I have observed in tape drives:
Some use a optical sensor to detect punched-out holes in the tape.
If there is dust in its path, it may fail. A cleaning cartridge does
not help for that, compressed air in the right place does. However
I do not know whether this can happen with the on-stream system. With
QIC-80 it was fairly common.

One other consideration: If OnStream is not in the market anymore,
that massively decreases the worth of your backup-system, since
what do you do if your drive breaks permenently? (Asuming it can
be repaired this time.)

Of course you could pay a commercial data recovery outfit to get at
your data when you need it, but changing to a newer system may be
cheaper and simpler. If you dos so, the consensus here seems to be
that for smaller-scale backups external HDDs or HDDs in swappable
bays are the way to go (some people here also advise CD-R(w) and
DVD+/-R(w), but these are not reliable enough for data with any
real worth) or alternatively 3.5" MOD or DVD-RAM for smaller backups.
The problem with tape drives is that they have not kept up with the
capacity increases of HDDs. They are still cost-effective in
tape-libraries with hundresd of tapes but not for smaller set-ups.

Arno
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Brian K - 31 Dec 2004 06:06 GMT
On 12/29/2004 12:31 PM  Arno Wagner after seeing Puppetry of the Penis
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I did a little checking using google and dogpile.com search engines.  
Onstream, Inc. filed Ch 7 bankruptcy a few years back.  I'll make one
more check, to see if the drive is properly seated on it's IDE cable.  
That's the one thing I didn't check.   Nevertheless,  with no additional
ADR cartages available at affordable prices  I guess I better start
looking at other backup options.

I really liked the tape drive: because I didn't need to feed additional
media to backup my entire system, and when it finished the job it would
shut my computer off.

I have an old P III 450 100 FSB system.  Firewire and hotswapable drives
are not an option.  I know, I should get a new computer.  I am an
artist.  At this point a new computer is not in my budget. :-(

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Arno Wagner - 31 Dec 2004 21:57 GMT
> On 12/29/2004 12:31 PM  Arno Wagner after seeing Puppetry of the Penis
> remarked:

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> ADR cartages available at affordable prices  I guess I better start
> looking at other backup options.

> I really liked the tape drive: because I didn't need to feed additional
> media to backup my entire system, and when it finished the job it would
> shut my computer off.

> I have an old P III 450 100 FSB system.  Firewire and hotswapable drives
> are not an option.  I know, I should get a new computer.  I am an
> artist.  At this point a new computer is not in my budget. :-(

Hmmm, that is a problem. It speaks volumes of the state of
personal computing that there are no reliable and affordable backup
solutions out there at the moment.

Still, you should ask yourself what happens if you losse some/all of
your work due to missing backups.

Arno
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