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Hardware Forum / Storage / CD and DVD / January 2004How to erase files on a cd-r?
i have Nero 5.5v and have about 10 wave files on a cd-r. I tried to erase them on windows explorer but am denied. I know one doesn't actually erased them, but would not like to see them appear. BTW, I'm assuming that even they are 'erased' they still would occupy all that space they took up originally? Multisession does not seem to give that erase option. > i have Nero 5.5v and have about 10 wave files on a cd-r. I tried to erase them > on windows explorer but am denied. I know one doesn't actually erased them, but > would not like to see them appear. BTW, I'm assuming that even they are > 'erased' they still would occupy all that space they took up originally? > Multisession does not seem to give that erase option. You can't erase files on a CDr. You need a CDrw if you want erasable files. On those it isn't too easy. You need to format using packet writing software (INCD with Nero). I don't think individual files can be erased with that. To wipe them reformat the CDrw . Usually software gives you an option to Quick erase. Steve M <sdm@atmosBlockA.plus.com> typed: >> i have Nero 5.5v and have about 10 wave files on a cd-r. I tried to >> erase them on windows explorer but am denied. I know one doesn't [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > You can't erase files on a CDr. Wrong. You can. You need a CDrw if you want erasable > files. On those it isn't too easy. You need to format using packet > writing software (INCD with Nero). I don't think individual files > can be erased with that. To wipe them reformat the CDrw . Usually > software gives you an option to Quick erase. wrong again. see reply from SMH > Steve M ><sdm@atmosBlockA.plus.com> typed: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Wrong. You can. Wrong. You can't "erase" files from a CDR. If you have formatted the CDR for packet-writing, yes, you can make it look like you "erased" or "deleted" the file - but it's still there on the CDR. The entry in the TOC was updated to make it ignore that file, but it CAN'T be erased as CDR media is not "erasable." >You need a CDrw if you want erasable >> files. On those it isn't too easy. You need to format using packet [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >> Steve M . -------------------------------------- Mike Richter, were you born with "Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face? -------------------------------------- (Mike Richter, any Material Connection w/ Roxio?) http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3F2D8973.EBCD8386@mindspring.com (Messages 10, 12 -- 34, 54 -- 69) ( No pipsqueaks have been able to prove ANY of the above is a libel ) ( -- despite Mikey's supposed to have proof of misquotes! ) > ><sdm@atmosBlockA.plus.com> typed: > > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > the TOC was updated to make it ignore that file, but it CAN'T be > erased as CDR media is not "erasable." Can't a "look like" erase be considered as an erase? (A TOC is not a file system directory, btw.) > >You need a CDrw if you want erasable > >> files. On those it isn't too easy. You need to format using packet [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > > >wrong again. see reply from SMH <none@none.net> typed: >> <sdm@atmosBlockA.plus.com> typed: >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > the TOC was updated to make it ignore that file, but it CAN'T be > erased as CDR media is not "erasable." Wrong again. No packet writing is needed to make a file "look" as deleted. Multisession is quite enough. Just select replace files in compilatin on next session write. But at the end, if i put in CDR, open explorer, read all the files on it...one of previous files is no longer there...for me it's DELETED. I don't care a sh.t if phisically is still there. I know that it still takes quality place on CDR, but i DON'T see it, so for me it's DELETED. PERIOD. Got it? (by the way, if you accidentally do this, you can still acces it using ISOBuster) ><none@none.net> typed: > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >(by the way, if you accidentally do this, you can still acces it using >ISOBuster) Cool. So when I killfile you, even though your messages giving out false information are still here (as a DELETED file doesn't take up space like a file on a CDR does that simply has it's TOC entry removed to make it invisible), then you are deleted as far as I am concerned. Hmmm..no real loss since you give out false information as fact. PLONK! <none@none.net> typed: >> <none@none.net> typed: >> [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > Hmmm..no real loss since you give out false information as fact. > PLONK! Hey...i NEVER said that deleted files doesn't take space on CDR. I just said that they CAN be deleted. That's difference. BIIIIG difference. I also said i don't give a sh.t if such deleted file still takes place on CDR. I do it so until CDR is full, then i get another one. But someone said that you can't erase a file on CDR and on CDRW only packet writing allows that. And THAT is a bullshit talk!!! > But someone said that you can't erase a file on CDR and on CDRW only > packet writing allows that. And THAT is a bullshit talk!!! This all sounds like an "it depends what 'is' is" argument. Just in this case it depends on how one defines "erase". <invalid@noemail.com> typed: >> But someone said that you can't erase a file on CDR and on CDRW only >> packet writing allows that. And THAT is a bullshit talk!!! > > This all sounds like an "it depends what 'is' is" argument. Just in > this case it depends on how one defines "erase". You have the point here....kinda... :-))) Remember however when you delete a file on HDD or floppy, you delete it exactly the same way- file is phisically still there (until you overwrite it in this case), just location of that file in TOC is deleted. Same thing except overwriting is not possible in CDR. > Remember however when you delete a file on HDD or floppy, you delete it > exactly the same way- file is phisically still there (until you overwrite it > in this case), just location of that file in TOC is deleted. And the overwriting is a pretty big exception...that the space is freed up for re-use on a hard-drive puts the two examples in very different leagues, IMO. Rick. -+--- rpali@alienshore.com http://www.alienshore.com/seeking/ > i have Nero 5.5v and have about 10 wave files on a cd-r. I tried to erase them > on windows explorer but am denied. I know one doesn't actually erased them, but > would not like to see them appear. BTW, I'm assuming that even they are > 'erased' they still would occupy all that space they took up originally? > Multisession does not seem to give that erase option. OMG! . -------------------------------------- Mike Richter, were you born with "Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face? -------------------------------------- (Mike Richter, any Material Connection w/ Roxio?) http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3F2D8973.EBCD8386@mindspring.com (Messages 10, 12 -- 34, 54 -- 69) ( No pipsqueaks have been able to prove ANY of the above is a libel ) ( -- despite Mikey's supposed to have proof of misquotes! ) > i have Nero 5.5v and have about 10 wave files on a cd-r. I tried to erase them > on windows explorer but am denied. I know one doesn't actually erased them, but > would not like to see them appear. BTW, I'm assuming that even they are > 'erased' they still would occupy all that space they took up originally? > Multisession does not seem to give that erase option. Select "Continue" multisession, delete the unwanted files in the layout window, and then burn. The unwanted files will be "logically" erased. > i have Nero 5.5v and have about 10 wave files on a cd-r. I tried to erase them > on windows explorer but am denied. I know one doesn't actually erased them, but > would not like to see them appear. BTW, I'm assuming that even they are > 'erased' they still would occupy all that space they took up originally? > Multisession does not seem to give that erase option. For such basic questions, please see one of the usual references: the CD-R FAQ or the primer at my WWW site. Briefly: A write-once disc is not erasable. In order to make a data file more difficult to access and to remove it from the TOC, you must have left the disc open and write a second session in which you do not import the file. There is no corresponding operation for CD-DA since an audio player is single-session. Mike  Signaturemrichter@cpl.net http://www.mrichter.com/ . -------------------------------------- Mike Richter, were you born with "Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face? -------------------------------------- (Mike Richter, any Material Connection w/ Roxio?) http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3F2D8973.EBCD8386@mindspring.com (Messages 10, 12 -- 34, 54 -- 69) ( No pipsqueaks have been able to prove ANY of the above is a libel ) ( -- despite Mikey's supposed to have proof of misquotes! ) > For such basic questions, please see one of the usual references: the > CD-R FAQ... CD-R FAQ, Mikey? Isn't that the site "quite dated" and has "significant" errors, Mikey? ====================== From: Mike Richter (Slimy Scum) Date: 5/24/02 I've posted privately to Andy on the FAQ section. It is quite dated ... and has significant errors ===================== ----------------------- No friggin' sh.t, Mikey ----------------------- . -------------------------------------- Mike Richter, were you born with "Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face? -------------------------------------- (Mike Richter, any Material Connection w/ Roxio?) http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3F2D8973.EBCD8386@mindspring.com (Messages 10, 12 -- 34, 54 -- 69) ( No pipsqueaks have been able to prove ANY of the above is a libel ) ( -- despite Mikey's supposed to have proof of misquotes! ) > > i have Nero 5.5v... Why are you commenting on Nero, Mikey? I have not used Nero I don't know Nero at all [...not use...not know...not write...] I do not comment on what I don't know. --------------------- What a Friggin' sh.t! --------------------- Also, was Adrian Miller wrong about you, Mikey? ======================= From: Adrian Miller Subject: Sam needs to apologise to Mike now. (was: Wife Beating Stopped, Mike Richter?) Date: 4/25/01 Unlike certain people he does not like to speculate on matters that he does not have personal experience of. ======================= Didn't Adrian Miller have reliable information then, Mikey? ===================== From: Mike Richter (Slimy Scum) Date: 8/2/01 [Adrian Miller] does provide reliable information when he has it in my experience. ====================== -------------------------------------- Mike Richter, were you born with "Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face? -------------------------------------- (Mike Richter, any Material Connection w/ Roxio?) |
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