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Hardware Forum / Peripherals / Printers / May 2007Epson Photo 1400 CIS Issues
Is anyone using a CIS on the new Photo 1400? With most Epson printers, the cover/lid of the cartridge holder is usually removed to provide clearance for the CIS tubing. I have this printer but don't see how a CIS can be installed on it without voiding the warranty. Any information about your installation will be very much appreciated. So far, I found that the left hinge unsnaps easily - as it does on many other Epson models. The right one however, doesn't snap apart. If you were to try to forcefully dis-assemble the right hinge you're likely to break it. Another way to get the needed clearance of course, would be to cut out some plastic. In either case, the warranty will be voided. How is this need for tubing clearance been handled on your 1400 CIS installation? Calll Epson Tech suppt and ask them. Tell them you want to install a CIS system and you want to use relabeled ink. See if they will help you. > Is anyone using a CIS on the new Photo 1400? With most Epson printers, > the cover/lid of the cartridge holder is usually removed to provide [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > How is this need for tubing clearance been handled on your 1400 CIS > installation? > Calll Epson Tech suppt and ask them. Tell them you want to install a > CIS system and you want to use relabeled ink. See if they will help you. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > How is this need for tubing clearance been handled on your 1400 CIS > > installation? Thanks for the reply, it's appreciated. have my doubts that Epson will help but It's worth a try - the worst they can say is NO WAY JOSE. What do you mean by "relabeled" inks? rckowal@gmail.com wrote: On May 23, 11:52 am, measekite <inkysti...@oem.com> wrote:Calll Epson Tech suppt and ask them. Tell them you want to install a CIS system and you want to use relabeled ink. See if they will help you. rcko...@gmail.com wrote: That is the junkie generic ink that vendors buy, relabel, and resell without telling the customer what they are selling. Glad you asked. If you are new to this group, you likely aren't yet familiar with our local troll. Measekite is a trouble maker who most of us have kill-filed so we don't have to put up with his foolishness. His comments (quoted below) are typical. He owns one or two Canon printers, and claims he only used OEM inks, and may well do so. He has been on a crusade against 3rd party inks for a year or two, making regular fallacious claims against them. No matter how many people have legitimately stated they use 3rd party inks successfully, he claims they are either liars, people working on behalf of ink resellers, or ink resellers themselves, and therefore with vested and dishonest intent. I know many of the people he makes these claims about, and the vast majority are not ink resellers. Anyway, his comments and suggestions to you should be taken as comic relief and not as serious suggestions. He is being "cute" . I don't think Epson will try to help you in this matter. Art >>Calll Epson Tech suppt and ask them. Tell them you want to install a >>CIS system and you want to use relabeled ink. See if they will help you. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > have my doubts that Epson will help but It's worth a try - the worst > they can say is NO WAY JOSE. What do you mean by "relabeled" inks? > Calll Epson Tech suppt and ask them. Tell them you want to install a > CIS system and you want to use relabeled ink. See if they will help you. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > How is this need for tubing clearance been handled on your 1400 CIS > > installation? Thanks for the reply, it's appreciated. have my doubts that Epson will help but It's worth a try - the worst they can say is NO WAY JOSE. What do you mean by "relabeled" inks? > Calll Epson Tech suppt and ask them. Tell them you want to install a > CIS system and you want to use relabeled ink. See if they will help you. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > How is this need for tubing clearance been handled on your 1400 CIS > > installation? Thanks for the reply, it's appreciated. have my doubts that Epson will help but It's worth a try - the worst they can say is NO WAY JOSE. What do you mean by "relabeled" inks? > Calll Epson Tech suppt and ask them. Tell them you want to install a > CIS system and you want to use relabeled ink. See if they will help you. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > How is this need for tubing clearance been handled on your 1400 CIS > > installation? Thanks for the reply, it's appreciated. have my doubts that Epson will help but It's worth a try - the worst they can say is NO WAY JOSE. What do you mean by "relabeled" inks? > Calll Epson Tech suppt and ask them. Tell them you want to install a > CIS system and you want to use relabeled ink. See if they will help you. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > How is this need for tubing clearance been handled on your 1400 CIS > > installation? Thanks for the reply, it's appreciated. have my doubts that Epson will help but It's worth a try - the worst they can say is NO WAY JOSE. What do you mean by "relabeled" inks? > Calll Epson Tech suppt and ask them. Tell them you want to install a > CIS system and you want to use relabeled ink. See if they will help you. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > How is this need for tubing clearance been handled on your 1400 CIS > > installation? Thanks for the reply, it's appreciated. have my doubts that Epson will help but It's worth a try - the worst they can say is NO WAY JOSE. What do you mean by "relabeled" inks? > On If you'd use a real news reader- there are many that are free, and your ISP's newsfeed, you'd not end up sextuple posting from Google=land. ll [[ aa ]] lsmft > Is anyone using a CIS on the new Photo 1400? With most Epson printers, > the cover/lid of the cartridge holder is usually removed to provide [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > How is this need for tubing clearance been handled on your 1400 CIS > installation? Hi Asking Epson won't get you much help, as you can imagine. However why not try the technical department of your intended CIS supplier. These bits of kit can be quite expensive initially, so you really want to make sure it will work on your own machine. If you are in the UK I would suggest Permajet, they do have a very good reputation. Roy G > <rcko...@gmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Roy G Thanks for the comments Roy. I have tried the CIS suppliers here in the states, There are only two who are actually suplying them at this time. Neither provides any information on the web about their CIS & will not answer my direct questions about the requirements for installation (hmmm, what are they hiding????). I will however try Parmajet. Maybe they're more customer friendly. rckowal@gmail.com wrote: On May 23, 5:32 pm, "Roy G" <roy.gibs...@REMOVE.tesco.net> wrote:<rcko...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1179930652.897005.146500@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com... That is typical service from the relabeler. All they say is compatible but we know that is a meaningless term On May 23, 10:30 am, rcko...@gmail.com wrote: > Is anyone using a CIS on the new Photo 1400? With most Epson printers, > the cover/lid of the cartridge holder is usually removed to provide [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > How is this need for tubing clearance been handled on your 1400 CIS > installation? I'd be using a Dremel tool with a carbide tip and have the space right now. Test the printer first for awhile and then take the risk. I could care less about the warranty. One way or the other, you are modifying the printer beyond what they warrant. Man-up and take an honest risk rather than hoping to fool somebody down the line if it doesn't work for you. > On May 23, 10:30 am, rcko...@gmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > doesn't work for you. > Man up and do not be an idiot and do things only a fool would do. You never know when you will need your warranty so I would not treat it lightly. > On May 23, 10:30 am, rcko...@gmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > honest risk rather than hoping to fool somebody down the line if it > doesn't work for you. Thanks for your thoughts Al, they're appreciated. The way I see it; for what I paid for this 1400 (special price plus rebate) once I save the cost of several sets of genuine Epson OEM cartridges (6X$19.00=$114.00/set), I can afford to replace it with a new one at no extra cost. From what I've read, this will not take very long since it gobbles cartridges at a very fast rate. The other way to look at this is what is the cost of having the Epson warranty. With out the fancy math, I'm guessing it's about $90.00 per set of cartridges (which last me less tha 2 - 3 weeks). Hell the extended warranty on a $30,000 car is cheaper than that. Regards rckowal@gmail.com wrote: On May 24, 7:51 pm, Al Bundy <MSfort...@mcpmail.com> wrote:On May 23, 10:30 am, rcko...@gmail.com wrote: The real way to look at it is that you do not have an Epson printer but you do have a generic ink dispenser that is made by Epson. So you get to enjoy poorer quality photos but the good newsw is they will not last as long. Epson cannot and does not directly void their warranty from use of a CIS or third party inks. They may imply they do, but the law in most countries doesn't allow them to. In most countries, some type of anti-trust legislation deems the ability to use consumables other than those made or marketed by the original equipment manufacturer protected, as long as any damage done under the warranty isn't directly caused by the 3rd party product. Further, it is the responsibility of the warranter to prove the 3rd party product was responsible for damaging the product. However, altering the physical structure of the product is another matter, and that may indeed void the warranty. Art > On May 23, 10:30 am, rcko...@gmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > honest risk rather than hoping to fool somebody down the line if it > doesn't work for you. > Epson cannot and does not directly void their warranty from use of a > CIS or third party inks. They may imply they do, but the law in most [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > original equipment manufacturer protected, as long as any damage done > under the warranty isn't directly caused by the 3rd party product. But in most cases that is exactly what happens. > Further, it is the responsibility of the warranter to prove the 3rd > party product was responsible for damaging the product. That is easy for them. > However, altering the physical structure of the product is another > matter, and that may indeed void the warranty. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >> honest risk rather than hoping to fool somebody down the line if it >> doesn't work for you. On May 23, 7:30 am, rcko...@gmail.com wrote: > Is anyone using a CIS on the new Photo 1400? With most Epson printers, > the cover/lid of the cartridge holder is usually removed to provide [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > How is this need for tubing clearance been handled on your 1400 CIS > installation? According to Ink Republic's 1400 CIS page http://www.inkrepublic.com/1400.asp Most likely you will need to break it and remove the cover, According to Epson user manual - "This warranty does not cover ribbons, ink cartridges or third party parts, components, or peripheral devices added to the Epson product after its shipment from Epson, e.g., dealer or user-added boards or components. Epson is not responsible for warranty ... should the product fail to function properly as a result of... interaction with non-Epson products". I did not see anything about voiding the warranty, except when the failure is caused by third party ink. The problem is, can they tell? or will they bother to find out if you are using 3rd party or not? Another way is to purchase extend warranty from store like compUSA, Fry's. 45 dollars only and you can exchange a new one if anything wrong. raidexpert@gmail.com wrote: On May 23, 7:30 am, rcko...@gmail.com wrote: Absolutely Another way is to purchase extend warranty from store like compUSA, Fry's. 45 dollars only and you can exchange a new one if anything wrong. |
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