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Hardware Forum / Brand Name Systems / Dell / March 2008dell 1520 or Dell 1720
Greetings. I'm about to purchase a laptop from Dell and I'm choosing between the Inspiron 1520 and the 1720. Hardware wise I like the 1720 a lot (especially the 17" screen) but the downside is that Dell won't put XP on it. It also costs $1300 configured. The 1520 comes with XP on it but the downside is the integrated graphics (intel x3100). Cost is around $720. I'm really new to laptops and this will be my first one. I'll be using it mainly as a desktop (I'm going to another country so I would rather buy locall first) so the weight of the laptop is irrelevant. I'll be using it primarily for games (mostly older games like Quakeworld, Quake 3, Diablo 2 and some modern ones like Doom 3 and Half Life 2). What would your recommendations be? I would really like to hear from people that own either one or both. Thanks in advance! > Greetings. I'm about to purchase a laptop from Dell and I'm choosing > between the Inspiron 1520 and the 1720. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >with COa from a retail outlet, but again make sure you have the drivers >before you ditch Vista look at the vostros 1500 and 1700 instead. either can be configured with xp and are identical machines to the respective inspirons that you express interest. they are all black instead of one color (of choice) on the outside and silver on the inside (including silver monitor frame and silver keyboard and wristpad). these are heavy laptops but well built and excellent values. > Greetings. I'm about to purchase a laptop from Dell and I'm choosing > between the Inspiron 1520 and the 1720. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > recommendations be? I would really like to hear from people that own > either one or both. Thanks in advance! >Greetings. I'm about to purchase a laptop from Dell and I'm choosing between >the Inspiron 1520 and the 1720. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >recommendations be? I would really like to hear from people that own either >one or both. Thanks in advance! I'd go for the 17", although look at the Vostros too because they have a 17" that you can order with XP. If you have a copy of Windows XP from another Dell that you've purchased, you can likely use it on a 1720, assuming that there are drivers for the newer hardware. > -----Original Message----- > From: Journey [mailto:journey@merr.com] > I'd go for the 17", although look at the Vostros too because they have > a 17" that you can order with XP. > > If you have a copy of Windows XP from another Dell that you've > purchased, you can likely use it on a 1720, assuming that there are > drivers for the newer hardware. Keep in mind that this suggestion is not legal and would be considered theft. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Journey [mailto:journey@merr.com] [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >Keep in mind that this suggestion is not legal and would be considered >theft. Thanks for the reminder, I should have pointed that out. At the risk of bringing up a topic discussed at length here, is it true that the OS disk follows the label on the computer's enclosure? I haven't had to deal with this very much because I have a lot of full versions bought using student discounts (although those might have limitations too) but I have taken liberties with XP Media Center in the past because that wasn't sold separately. Now I use Beyond TV which is much better so I never use the Media Center features anyway. > Thanks for the reminder, I should have pointed that out. At the risk > of bringing up a topic discussed at length here, is it true that the > OS disk follows the label on the computer's enclosure? Yes, as do any other OEM software packages. Bob >> Thanks for the reminder, I should have pointed that out. At the risk >> of bringing up a topic discussed at length here, is it true that the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Bob I bought a used E1501 and it has a WinXP Media Edition COA sticker on the bottom that was unreadable. No disks with the machine. I reloaded with a Dell WinXP Pro SP2 OEM cd I had and it worked fine and didn't ask me to register. FYI > -----Original Message----- > From: WaIIy [mailto:WaIIy@(nft).invalid] [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > didn't ask me to register. > FYI No, it didn't and it won't. The Dell CDs will install on any Dell without activation. That said, you are effectively 'stealing' a copy of XP Pro, since the machine only has an MCE license. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: WaIIy [mailto:WaIIy@(nft).invalid] [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >That said, you are effectively 'stealing' a copy of XP Pro, since the >machine only has an MCE license. Then the question becomes a moral vs. legal question. Moral doesn't always equal legal of course. For me, I have almost entirely gone the legal route at home with only a few exceptions. When it comes to my professional or volunteer activities though I always do things legally. That is getting me in trouble at a volunteer organization that has one copy of MS Office installed on 6 PCs. The executive director there doesn't see it as a problem and we got into an argument about it and she told me to file a grievance. I will, and I will also bring it up at the next board meeting and have it added to that person's job description to be responsible for making sure that all software on a computer is licensed. I will ask the board to give me auditing powers. So, it's good to stay legal, although if I had a personal machine with Vista on it and it was causing problems, and also had a Dell XP disk, I wouldn't see any problem morally with installing XP on that computer. Keep in mind that the larger the screen and the faster the processor, the less portable and more power hungry the laptop is. So if you ever expect to travel a lot with a laptop, a 9 lb unit plus A/C adapter and carrying case will feel awfully heavy when you drag it from your car to wherever you are going. ... Ben Myers >Greetings. I'm about to purchase a laptop from Dell and I'm choosing between >the Inspiron 1520 and the 1720. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >recommendations be? I would really like to hear from people that own either >one or both. Thanks in advance! > Keep in mind that the larger the screen and the faster the processor, the > less [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >>either >>one or both. Thanks in advance! Thanks for your helpful suggestions. I have a retail (not OEM) copy of Windows XP Home SP2 that is currently installed on my desktop but I will wipe that off the desktop HDD and try to put it on the Dell. I The Vostros series do look good (especially the 17") but I can't use my dell preferred card to buy it (have to have a business preferred card) and my other credit card is maxed out. I really do like the 1700 though! >> Keep in mind that the larger the screen and the faster the processor, the >> less [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > preferred card to buy it (have to have a business preferred card) and my > other credit card is maxed out. I really do like the 1700 though! Dell has drivers for both machines on the web site. >>> Keep in mind that the larger the screen and the faster the processor, >>> the less [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] >> and my other credit card is maxed out. I really do like the 1700 though! > Dell has drivers for both machines on the web site. I might also add that since the OP is going to use the system for gaming, he's going to want a minimum 256mb graphics card, the fastest CPU he can afford, and a minimum of 2gb of RAM. Going through www.dealcatcher.com I noted there is a $500 off deal on Vostro 1700's of $1,299.00 or more. So I just threw one together really quick to get an idea ( the plain text formatting will be butchered, but the specs and price should be evident / minus tax and shipping): SYSTEM COMPONENTS Vostro 1700 Qty 1 Intel® CoreT 2 Duo T9300 (2.5GHz/800Mhz FSB/6MB cache), Genuine Windows® XP Home Edition, SP2 Unit Price $1,583.00 Save $500 off on select systems over $1299 Limited Time Offer View Details - $500.00 Catalog Number: 4 BQCWL1S Module Description Show Details Vostro 1700 Intel® CoreT 2 Duo T9300 (2.5GHz/800Mhz FSB/6MB cache) Operating System Genuine Windows® XP Home Edition, SP2 LCD Panel 17.0 inch Wide Screen XGA LCD Anti-Glare Display Memory 2GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz, 2 DIMM Video Card 256MB NVIDIA® GeForceT 8600M GT Hard Drive 160GB 5400RPM Hard Drive Integrated NIC and Modem Integrated 10/100 Network Card and Modem Adobe Software Adobe® Acrobat® Reader Optical Drive 8X CD/DVD+RW Read and Burn CD and DVD Sound Card Integrated High Definition Audio Wireless Cards Dell Wireless 1395 802.11g Wi-Fi Internal Card Camera No Camera Productivity Software Microsoft® Works 9. Does NOT Include MS Word MediaDirect Dell Exclusive MediaDirectT Instant Play Software Application Anti-Virus/Security Suite (Pre-Install) McAfee SecurityCenter 30-day Subscription Primary Battery 56 WHr 6-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery Limited Warranty, Services and Support 1 Year Basic Limited Warranty plus 1 Year Mail-in Service Installation Services No Onsite System Setup Dell DataSafe Online Data Backup 10GB for 1 Year Online Data Backup by Dell DataSafe Automated PC Tuneup 1 Year Dell Automated PC Tuneup Network Assistant Dell Network Assistant Purchase Intent Purchase is not intended for resale. Processor Branding Intel Core 2 Duo Processor Labels Windows XPT Sticker SOFTWARE FOR YOUR DELL Free Microsoft Office Live Small Business Qty 1 Dell Part# A0954428 Unit Price $0.00 Manufacturer Part# VBADCC Dell Part# A0954428 Attract new customers with a FREE website and tools . View Details TOTAL:$1,083.00 Hey Ben! Got any more good tips like dealcatcher.com Thanks ZaXXoN >>>> Keep in mind that the larger the screen and the faster the processor, >>>> the less [quoted text clipped - 94 lines] > >TOTAL:$1,083.00 >Greetings. I'm about to purchase a laptop from Dell and I'm choosing between >the Inspiron 1520 and the 1720. One nice thing about a 17" laptop is that with remote desktop it gives you a nice screen in which you can access other computers in your house, if you have multiple computers. It will even scale up smaller computers to match the resolution of your 17" one. |
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