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Can XP install disk that came w/my Dell be used on my new Gateway ML6720 Laptop?

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Daniel G. - 23 Mar 2008 00:57 GMT
    Hi All,
I recently bought  a Gateway ML6720 laptop that came loaded w/Vista
Home Premium edition. I'm not sure if I want to keep Vista and may
replace it w/XP. Is this possible using the XP install discs that came
w/the Dell 8400? Ant tips on how to best do this? I'm no expert w/PCs
but am not a novice either. thanks for any input.
olfart - 23 Mar 2008 01:06 GMT
> Hi All,
> I recently bought  a Gateway ML6720 laptop that came loaded w/Vista
> Home Premium edition. I'm not sure if I want to keep Vista and may
> replace it w/XP. Is this possible using the XP install discs that came
> w/the Dell 8400? Ant tips on how to best do this? I'm no expert w/PCs
> but am not a novice either. thanks for any input.

The Dell XP disc is usually locked to a specific Dell machine.
Ben Myers - 23 Mar 2008 02:27 GMT
Not so.  I can pick any random Dell XP install CD I have here and install it on
any random Dell computer with matching XP sticker, and, yes it will work
perfectly.  And then I have to install the hardware drivers for that model of
Dell.  Unlike other manufacturers who wrap up XP and drivers into a nice little
ball, Dell's XP reinstallation CD appears to be almost identical to any other
Windows OEM install CD, and Dell supplies (should I say supplied?) an XP driver
CD to handle the hardware specific drivers of a given system (or family of
similar systems)... Ben Myers

>> Hi All,
>> I recently bought  a Gateway ML6720 laptop that came loaded w/Vista
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>The Dell XP disc is usually locked to a specific Dell machine.
Tony Harding - 23 Mar 2008 15:52 GMT
>> Hi All,
>> I recently bought  a Gateway ML6720 laptop that came loaded w/Vista
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> The Dell XP disc is usually locked to a specific Dell machine.

Not true, I've used Dell XP Pro CDs to install Windows on non Dell
machines (ThinkPads). Worked fine, but you need to enter a valid product
key when the time comes. No Dell BIOS = no automatic activation.
Steve W. - 23 Mar 2008 20:32 GMT
>>> Hi All,
>>> I recently bought  a Gateway ML6720 laptop that came loaded w/Vista
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> machines (ThinkPads). Worked fine, but you need to enter a valid product
> key when the time comes. No Dell BIOS = no automatic activation.

And even with a Dell BIOS it may require activation. BTDT with this machine.
Dell 8200, Dell supplied XP upgrade disc (from ME). New hard drive,
formatted installed XP using the proper key and it asked for activation.

Signature

Steve W.
Near Cooperstown, New York

pen - 23 Mar 2008 20:47 GMT
>>>> Hi All,
>>>> I recently bought  a Gateway ML6720 laptop that came loaded w/Vista
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Dell 8200, Dell supplied XP upgrade disc (from ME). New hard drive,
> formatted installed XP using the proper key and it asked for activation.

All Dell upgrade disks require activation as there isn't a built in key.
It's only the reinstall ones that have an OEM key built in. In 6 Dells
that I've checked they all had the same key, not the keys on the COAs.
Tom Scales - 23 Mar 2008 22:34 GMT
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve W. [mailto:csr684NOT@yahoo.com]
> Posted At: Sunday, March 23, 2008 2:32 PM
> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
> Conversation: Can XP install disk that came w/my Dell be used on my
new
> Gateway ML6720 Laptop?
> Subject: Re: Can XP install disk that came w/my Dell be used on my new
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> Steve W.
> Near Cooperstown, New York

Dell UPGRADE disks require activation.  Dell Full XP disks don't.

Learned that quirk with my 4550.
Bob Levine - 23 Mar 2008 01:19 GMT
>     Hi All,
> I recently bought  a Gateway ML6720 laptop that came loaded w/Vista
> Home Premium edition. I'm not sure if I want to keep Vista and may
> replace it w/XP. Is this possible using the XP install discs that came
> w/the Dell 8400? Ant tips on how to best do this? I'm no expert w/PCs
> but am not a novice either. thanks for any input.

You can likely get it installed but you're going to be stuck after that
without a legitimate cd key.

Bob
Tom Scales - 23 Mar 2008 02:13 GMT
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Levine [mailto:fake@fake.com.invalid]
> Posted At: Saturday, March 22, 2008 7:20 PM
> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
> Conversation: Can XP install disk that came w/my Dell be used on my
new
> Gateway ML6720 Laptop?
> Subject: Re: Can XP install disk that came w/my Dell be used on my new
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Bob

As Bob said, it will install but will require activation with a legal XP
OEM CD key.
S.Lewis - 23 Mar 2008 15:39 GMT
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bob Levine [mailto:fake@fake.com.invalid]
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> As Bob said, it will install but will require activation with a legal XP
> OEM CD key.

^^^^ Correct. ^^^^   It will work, enter the Gateway's product key and
you'll have to activate it.
Bob Levine - 23 Mar 2008 15:50 GMT
> ^^^^ Correct. ^^^^   It will work, enter the Gateway's product key and
> you'll have to activate it.

Problem is the Gateway has Vista on it. No XP key to use.

Bob
Tony Harding - 23 Mar 2008 15:54 GMT
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Bob Levine [mailto:fake@fake.com.invalid]
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> ^^^^ Correct. ^^^^   It will work, enter the Gateway's product key and
> you'll have to activate it.

But the Gateway came with Vista - he'll need a valid XP product key.
S.Lewis - 23 Mar 2008 19:52 GMT
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Bob Levine [mailto:fake@fake.com.invalid]
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
> But the Gateway came with Vista - he'll need a valid XP product key.

I just noticed from the thread. Yeah, he needs to buy a retail copy of XP.
Ben Myers - 23 Mar 2008 02:19 GMT
Legally, you cannot do so, according to Microsoft.  Once you install Dell's XP
on your Gateway, you need a legitimate XP product key, too.  If your Gateway has
one on it, you can enter it via the nice little Keyfinder utility prior to
activating XP at the Microsoft web site.

If you do not have a legit Gateway product key, you might as well buy XP in
whatever store is still selling it.

Either way, you will also need XP drivers for your laptop.  If they are not
available from Gateway, you need to determine which chipsets are in your system
and download the chipset drivers from the chipset manufacturers' web sites. The
important chipsets are motherboard, video, Ethernet, audio, and perhaps
wireless.  Maybe modem, too.  You need to install them pretty much in the order
I've given them above, rebooting when XP dumbly and stupidly asks you to.

... Ben Myers

>    Hi All,
>I recently bought  a Gateway ML6720 laptop that came loaded w/Vista
>Home Premium edition. I'm not sure if I want to keep Vista and may
>replace it w/XP. Is this possible using the XP install discs that came
>w/the Dell 8400? Ant tips on how to best do this? I'm no expert w/PCs
>but am not a novice either. thanks for any input.
Ben Myers - 23 Mar 2008 02:23 GMT
Correction: You would need to enter the Gateway-supplied product key when asked
during the XP install.

Just to make your life exciting, the product key you use MUST agree with the
type of XP you are installing, i.e. XP Home with XP Home, XP Pro with XP Pro.
Also be aware that there are at least two different versions of XP Home, one
with the original series of product keys and one with a new set of product keys,
and you cannot mix and match product keys with XP version between them.  Same
with XP Pro.

You can thank Scrooge McGates for doing everything possible to make our lives
pleasant and easy... Ben Myers

>Legally, you cannot do so, according to Microsoft.  Once you install Dell's XP
>on your Gateway, you need a legitimate XP product key, too.  If your Gateway has
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>>w/the Dell 8400? Ant tips on how to best do this? I'm no expert w/PCs
>>but am not a novice either. thanks for any input.
Tony Harding - 23 Mar 2008 15:56 GMT
> Correction: You would need to enter the Gateway-supplied product key when asked
> during the XP install.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> You can thank Scrooge McGates for doing everything possible to make our lives
> pleasant and easy... Ben Myers

Funny, I can actually visualize Gates diving into a pool full of money.  :)
Ben Myers - 23 Mar 2008 19:06 GMT
Well, he does have that mansion out on an island in Puget Sound.  Do you think
his basement has only a pool table and a ping pong table?  ... Ben

>> Correction: You would need to enter the Gateway-supplied product key when asked
>> during the XP install.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>Funny, I can actually visualize Gates diving into a pool full of money.  :)
Tony Harding - 24 Mar 2008 17:06 GMT
> Well, he does have that mansion out on an island in Puget Sound.  Do you think
> his basement has only a pool table and a ping pong table?  ... Ben

Actually, Ben, I've never thought about Gates' basement before. He could
probably have a private island squirreled away somewhere, or an airplane
hangar, etc.
Ben Myers - 24 Mar 2008 19:35 GMT
Well, Gates DOES live on a private island out in Puget Sound.  He may also own
by now one of the many interesting settings from the various James Bond movies.
You know.   The ones with the lair of the villain... Ben Myers

>> Well, he does have that mansion out on an island in Puget Sound.  Do you think
>> his basement has only a pool table and a ping pong table?  ... Ben
>
>Actually, Ben, I've never thought about Gates' basement before. He could
>probably have a private island squirreled away somewhere, or an airplane
>hangar, etc.
Tony Harding - 26 Mar 2008 08:14 GMT
> Well, Gates DOES live on a private island out in Puget Sound.  He may also own
> by now one of the many interesting settings from the various James Bond movies.
> You know.   The ones with the lair of the villain... Ben Myers

Right, suggesting Ernst Stavro Blofeld's famous remark "we are now
impregnable" in "You Only Live Twice".
Ben Myers - 26 Mar 2008 22:16 GMT
Interesting that the Blofeld character ended up with a middle name nearly
identical to Telly's younger brother, Stavros, who had hair and played a bit
part cop to Telly on TV.

Blofeld is only one of many Bond villains whose profiles fit Gates.   Maybe
Blofeld as Steve Ballmer, or vice versa?   Same hairdo... Ben Myers

>> Well, Gates DOES live on a private island out in Puget Sound.  He may also own
>> by now one of the many interesting settings from the various James Bond movies.
>> You know.   The ones with the lair of the villain... Ben Myers
>
>Right, suggesting Ernst Stavro Blofeld's famous remark "we are now
>impregnable" in "You Only Live Twice".
Tony Harding - 28 Mar 2008 01:16 GMT
> Interesting that the Blofeld character ended up with a middle name nearly
> identical to Telly's younger brother, Stavros, who had hair and played a bit
> part cop to Telly on TV.

Right, listed as "Demosthenes" in the credits for Kojak.

> Blofeld is only one of many Bond villains whose profiles fit Gates.   Maybe
> Blofeld as Steve Ballmer, or vice versa?   Same hairdo... Ben Myers

Heh, sounds like the start of several fun threads.

Jobs as Hank Scorpio?
BigJim - 23 Mar 2008 06:39 GMT
you know when I reinstalled my xp home on my laptop I never even entered a
key

> Hi All,
> I recently bought  a Gateway ML6720 laptop that came loaded w/Vista
> Home Premium edition. I'm not sure if I want to keep Vista and may
> replace it w/XP. Is this possible using the XP install discs that came
> w/the Dell 8400? Ant tips on how to best do this? I'm no expert w/PCs
> but am not a novice either. thanks for any input.
 
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