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K7VZA unstable, HELP!

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loched - 27 Apr 2005 04:09 GMT
Hello all. I just set up my computer with WinXP pro SP2 and was doing
OK until the system mysteriously shut down (like there was a power
failure) and rebooted. I have a new Mad Dog 350w power supply, ATI
video card, two 128mb Kingston PC133 and one Simple PC133 256mb chip
with an Athlon 1 ghz cpu. Temps are good at 45degC. System has trouble
booting and will not stay stable for more than 5 minutes max.
When I boot into the bios to look at the cpu temp, it seems to be fine
and does not reboot. I’ve changed the memory, video and power supply
and have cleaned out the system of dust without luck. Is my mobo
fried? Funds are a prob and need PC running stable for my daughter to
do homework on. Does anyone have an ideas? Thanks.

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Brian Campbell - 27 Apr 2005 05:51 GMT
Do you see the capacitors (the tin cans on the motherboard)  bulging?  If
so, they need to be replaced.  Rather a common problem on them
motherboards, sadly.  

: Hello all. I just set up my computer with WinXP pro SP2 and was doing
: OK until the system mysteriously shut down (like there was a power
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: fried? Funds are a prob and need PC running stable for my daughter to
: do homework on. Does anyone have an ideas? Thanks.
loched - 28 Apr 2005 05:02 GMT
> Do you see the capacitors (the tin cans on the motherboard)
> bulging?  If
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Some do look like they are bulging a bit. I’ll change them and see.
Thanks for your help.
Buffalo - 07 May 2005 17:20 GMT
>  > Do you see the capacitors (the tin cans on the motherboard)
>  > bulging?  If
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> Some do look like they are bulging a bit. I'll change them and see.
> Thanks for your help.

Any hints or URLs on how to change them properly?
loched - 09 May 2005 06:07 GMT
>  >  > Do you see the capacitors (the tin cans on the
> motherboard)
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>
> Any hints or URLs on how to change them properly?

I just changed the caps and the motherboard is functioning properly
again! Thanks Brian for your suggestion!
Changing the caps was relatively easy. If you have a good soldering
iron and a couple of extra hands, it would make life much easier. Be
careful not to break the circuit paths on the top of the circuit board
in addition to the bottom. Ideally, remove all the old solder when
removing the old cap (use either a solder sucker or desoldering braid.
Some flux on the tip of the soldering iron helps to thin the solder
out.
When you order the replacement caps (I got mine from Digikey), be sure
to get the physical dimensions right as well. A little patience, $20
in caps and my mother board is back in buisness!
Brian Campbell deserves all the props.  :o
As an aside, My PC with an MSI mobo also went on the fritz around the
same time but it’s caps were fine. The problem turned out to be
incompatible memory (after taking the whole thing apart and checking
each component!). The symptoms were very similar to my ECS mobo, so
there’s another thing to try if your PC is unstable.
Buffalo - 09 May 2005 14:35 GMT
"loched" <DoNotEmail@HardwareForumz.com> wrote in message >
> I just changed the caps and the motherboard is functioning properly
> again! Thanks Brian for your suggestion!
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> each component!). The symptoms were very similar to my ECS mobo, so
> there's another thing to try if your PC is unstable.

I changed one and it took awhile. Next time I'll also try using a magnifying
glass.
I used a pencil type soldering iron and I was worried about the solder getting
onto one of the tracks that was within 1/16 of an inch of the hole. Any tips on
how to keep the solder away from the tracks, or just be very careful and use
only the minimum solder needed?
Did you apply the solder to the wire leads just above the MB or to the tip of
the soldering iron, itself?
Thanks
 
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